lcionline Chapter 173 Is it feasible for Konoha to not have Tobirama?
Chapter 173 Is it feasible for Konoha to not have Tobirama?
Chapter 173 Is it feasible for Konoha to not have Tobirama Senju? (Seeking monthly votes)
[Friends] [Uchiha Madara attacked Konoha with the Nine-Tails. After the Uchiha clan members all awakened the Sharingan, they became extreme in their thinking. When they awakened the Mangekyou Sharingan, they became so arrogant that they could not tolerate any opinions from the weak.]
Then, the Uchiha were put on guard by Konoha, and the Konoha leadership after the Second Hokage also suppressed them. After that, the Uchiha prepared to launch a coup, and then Konoha ordered the elimination of the Uchiha.
It's hard to say who was right and who was wrong in this matter. It's more accurate to say that the choices made by Madara Uchiha, Hashirama Senju, the Uchiha clan, and Konoha led to this outcome. [13974 people liked this. Brother.] [The main point is that even after the Uchiha clan was defeated, they still dared to suggest that Hashirama commit suicide or kill Tobirama, and the key point is that Hashirama agreed.]
[How could Tobirama's psychological trauma towards Madara be small?] 15491 people liked this [Lovers] [Hashirama might as well have just killed Madara back then, since he would have killed him later anyway. If Madara had died at his hands then, Madara wouldn't have had any regrets. But later, Hashirama gave him hope time and time again, only to shatter his dreams.] 12199 people liked this [Brothers] [I actually think Tobirama is the most normal. The defeated enemy suggested that our generals commit suicide or kill our strategists? That's such a bizarre logic! And our generals agreed? It's only because Tobirama Senju is Hashirama Senju's brother that this happened; otherwise, which strategist wouldn't have fled overnight?] 15649 people liked this [Friends] [Madara didn't really kill Hashirama. Is it normal for Tobirama to be wary of Madara for something that didn't even happen?] 4390 people liked this [Enemies] [Looking at it this way, the Uchiha and Senju might as well not have formed an alliance!] 17167 people liked this [Lovers] [Alliance Not Recommended] 26490 people liked this The Uchiha and Senju clans don't form an alliance, and surprisingly so many people agree!
The timeline of the breakup in Nanga River - 12-year-old Uchiha Madara and Senju Hashirama stared wide-eyed at the barrage of comments in the sky.
It would be better if the Uchiha and Senju did not form an alliance.
Madara Uchiha shared the same thought at that moment: "Hashirama, let's forget about the foolish things we said back then!"
Hashirama Senju: "Madara—"
Hashirama was unwilling to accept this; he couldn't understand what was wrong with their beautiful wish!
Seeing that the Uchiha clan would be destroyed by the two boys opposite them, Tajima Uchiha's desire to kill Hashirama Senju and Tobirama Senju intensified.
However, the more important issue right now is that these comments are floating in the sky, and the Uchiha and Senju clans have probably seen them within their clan territories.
It's even possible that the daimyo and the hundred clans of the ninja world could see it!
As the respective clan leaders, he and Senju Butsuma should no longer linger here, but should return to their clans to appease their people.
"That's enough for today, Thousand-Armed Butsuma."
"Hmph! Go explain yourself to the Uchiha clan, Uchiha Tajima," Senju Butsuma mocked.
Then the two clan leaders each called out, "Let's go! Hashirama, Tobirama!" and "Go back, Madara, Izuna!"
Madara Uchiha and Hashirama Senju exchanged a glance before following their fathers back to their clan's territory to be punished.
[Lovers] [Being wary of the Uchiha, suppressing the Uchiha, and preventing Madara from becoming the First Hokage—the culprit for all of this is Tobirama Senju! If it weren't for Tobirama Senju, Madara Uchiha and Hashirama Senju would probably have had a good relationship.] 6490 people liked this. Tobirama Senju remained very calm even when he saw such comments. Those in positions of power need to consider the opinions of those in positions of power, but they cannot arbitrarily change their main policies based on the ideas of those in positions of power.
Even if it brings infamy, as long as it protects the village.
The village is the top priority!
[Enemy] [That's laughable. Two chairmen who made a snap decision, got rid of the CEO because they didn't like him? Isn't that cutting corners?] 19401 people liked this. [Friend] [Hashirama Senju was quite thoughtful, but he's definitely not as good as Tobirama Senju in domestic affairs.] 15679 people liked this. It seems not everyone thinks Tobirama Senju's strategy is flawed. Tobirama Senju reflected inwardly, but if he had another chance, he probably wouldn't follow his previous strategy exactly.
In any case, the establishment of villages and the one-village-per-country system were pioneered by Konoha, and other villages followed suit.
Without a model to refer to, we can only try to think about the problem comprehensively and then continuously explore a path that is in line with reality.
No matter how comprehensively you consider the problem, you can't prevent unexpected changes from happening.
For example, who would have thought that the Fourth Hokage would die young, and the murderer would be the reanimated Tobirama looking at the Ten-Tails Jinchuriki, Obito Uchiha, and the reanimated Madara who was stuck in the ground, and be furious!
[Lovers] [Do you dare say that Tobirama Senju didn't sideline Madara Uchiha? The title of Hokage was originally prepared by Hashirama Senju for the Uchiha clan. If Tobirama hadn't used despicable methods and insisted on a nationwide election, the Hokage position might have been held by the Uchiha clan for generations.]
9701 people liked this [Enemy] [How many hereditary systems have resulted in good outcomes?] 6749 people liked this [Lovers] [Monkey, you'll be Hokage tomorrow! Is this what you call an elected result? Konoha isn't hereditary; what's the difference between a master-disciple system and a hereditary system?] 11410 people liked this [Enemy] [If it were a hereditary system, then all Hokage would be from the Senju clan. With a master-disciple system, at least the Hokage can take on Uchiha as a disciple. Minato and his wife valued Obito Uchiha so much.] 11569 people liked this; it's similar to the thought of Edo Tensei Tobirama.
Obito is so annoying! Why do we have to bring up Obito every time we talk about Madara Uchiha and Hashirama Senju?!
[Brother] I think this matter is related to Tobirama, but not that much. Tobirama unconditionally supported Hashirama's ideas and turned all of Hashirama's dreams into feasible and practical solutions.
What Madara lacked was precisely such a younger brother. Izuna couldn't forget his hatred, nor could he trust the Senju, while the Second Hokage had been teaching him and Hashirama's younger brother since childhood not to be bound by hatred, or else they would die.
It can only be said that Tobirama trusted his brother more than Izuna and was more willing to think from Hashirama's perspective.
Instead of doing whatever they think is best, like Izuna and Itachi. 】19741 people liked this. Uchiha Izuna's serious injury timeline 1: Izuna slowly woke up, feeling nauseous and dizzy from blood loss. When he opened his eyes, he saw this comment.
I'm not convinced!
This was Izuna's first reaction!
This was just a case of him being careless! It doesn't mean he lost to Tobirama Senju!!
He was so angry that his blood rushed to his head, and his face, which had been pale just moments before, turned purplish-red.
"Calm down! Calm down! Madara's brother!" Hashirama placed his palm on Izuna's chest, and the emerald green palm healer chakra helped suppress the surging blood in his chest.
[Brothers] Izuna and Itachi did indeed sacrifice themselves for Madara and Sasuke, giving them a second chance at light, but this method was no different from tearing a piece of flesh from Madara and Sasuke's hearts. 29740 people liked this. [Brothers] It can only be said that the brotherhood within the Uchiha clan is too extreme, giving away eyes at the drop of a hat! While giving away eyes, they also leave behind a last word without considering the consequences, such as "Itachi! Protect the village I love, and the honor of the Uchiha", or "Brother, please protect the Uchiha clan". Itachi didn't leave any last words, but Obito knew everything, so how could he not use this to provoke Sasuke? 34908 people liked this. When Hashirama was calming Izuna's blood, he also saw the comments in the sky.
Hashirama was deeply moved that someone understood his friendship with Tobirama, and at the same time, he was angry for Madara for the self-sacrifice that Izuna might have to make!
Hashirama was furious, a sense of desolation, a feeling that had replaced Madara's, welled up in his chest. "I don't know what it means to sacrifice for Madara or to give up one's eyes, but as Tobirama's brother, if Tobirama were to choose to die for me one day—"
"Brother, that's enough."
Tobirama Senju disliked Hashirama using his own experiences as examples for the Uchiha brothers.
But Hashirama ignored him and continued speaking to Izuna, "Then I will definitely be angry! Even if I reach the Pure Land a hundred years later, I will not forgive him!"
Although Madara did not deny Hashirama's words, seeing Izuna's shocked face, he awkwardly said, "Stop talking, Hashirama. This has nothing to do with you. Just focus on healing Izuna."
But Hashirama has always been stubborn since he was a child. Even when he was beaten to near death by Butsuma Senju, he refused to give in!
What's more, Ban only gave a perfunctory "shut up" remark.
"My and Madara's dream is to create an ideal village where children don't have to go to the battlefield, and then put you and Tobirama in the village and protect them well."
Izuna looked at her brother in surprise.
Ban averted his gaze.
Hashirama stared intently into Izuna's eyes and told him, "No matter what, you may not believe the Senju, you may not believe me or Tobirama, but you must believe in your place in Madara's heart!"
Hashirama Senju: "Tobirama understood this principle, so no matter how badly he was injured, he would find a way to survive and return to my side."
This topic ultimately made Tobirama very embarrassed.
In the main world: the Fourth Shinobi World War timeline, the reanimated Hashirama was deeply moved and praised to the other Kage: "My brother is such a good brother! The cutest brother in the whole world!"
Such a powerful Second Hokage, it's so embarrassing!
Kannabihashi Timeline Timeline —
Izuna looked at the comments expressing regret for his departure from Madara, and his initial resentment turned to his brother (the elderly Uchiha Madara).
Lowering his gaze, he said in a deep voice, "Compared to protecting the Uchiha clan, the person I want to protect more is you, Izuna." All of this was filled with guilt and sorrow.
The incredibly upright young man, Uchiha Madara, who arrived at Kannabi Bridge ahead of time but delayed carrying out his mission, simply sat there waiting for the Iwagakure ninja to arrive, and let out a "pi--" sound!
"Who are you?!" "A Konoha ninja?!"
A group of Iwagakure intruded into Madara Uchiha's line of sight, just as Madara was in a very bad mood!